Oregon opening with LSU is a bad idea
Posted on 05. Aug, 2010 at 4:09 pm by Kinger in Oregon Ducks Football, PAC-10 Football
It is looking like a near lock right now that Oregon will open the 2011 season with the Tigers of LSU at Jerry’s World in Arlington.
Great…
I realize that these sort of games used to be huge (see the Kickoff Classic) and are making a comeback of sorts, even the Rose Bowl want’s to get involved, but come on.
Am I wrong, or do we crush our friends up at Lunch Pail U for taking these road/neutral games with no return trip, all the time? The Ducks have brought in Sparty, Wisconsin, Michigan, Oklahoma and have Tennessee and Georgia on the schedule to come into Autzen, do they really need to stoop to the Beavers level? Last I checked, OSU has to take these games are they are just bleeding millions of dollars in the red, Oregon is not.
Certainly, this game would be on in prime time on national television and bring in a ton of cash to each school, and that’s a good thing. But, make no mistake about it, this would be essentially a home game for the Tigers. And Oregon would be the sacrificial lamb willing to lay down and take a beat down, that is, if they get paid enough… At least that would be the perception, as who knows what these teams will look like in 2011.
I don’t like slinking to a ‘Beaver level’, and I don’t like scheduling a game that on paper makes you a huge underdog. Honestly, stick to scheduling nothing but Portland State, New Mexico and Utah State every year. Well, maybe with one marquee game every couple of years, but they have to make a return trip. Big non-conference games are fun to talk about and make for a great atmosphere, but they are a huge gamble. Scheduling cupcakes and never leaving your home state in the non-conference schedule seems to be working out well for SEC schools. Sure, we Pac-10 fans complain about it, but how is scheduling a murderers row every year working out for us?
It’s not.
Oregon should do nothing but schedule directional schools and schools for the blind, and show up 5-0 into every single October and in the top 10, it’s just good business.
Oregon, you are better than scheduling this game. Pull out and put in Idaho State or something, give us an auto-win. Besides, it is super hot in Texas in September, and us Oregonians all freckle too easily under the blistering sun.
PS-how sweet is that pic? Meerkat is a wizard.
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WCP541
05. Aug, 2010
LSU ain’t shit. We’ll do just fine in “Jerry’s World.” If it was an SEC team like UF, or Bama, then I would have some concern.
Derp Derpington
05. Aug, 2010
Look, heres the deal. They want to play this game in Dallas because Oregon has been pulling a ton of huge recruits out of Texas as of late and they want to increase their recruiting prowess. The Ducks will be loaded in 2011, probably better than they are in 2010. Seastrunk will be running wild, DT will be in his groove, and the defense will be mediocre as always. Oregon tends to struggle on the road early on, but then again so does LSU. This is a great scheduling move. My only wish would be that Oregon has a patsy to warm up against the week before, while LSU would be coming into its first game. That would make this game ideal.
You best be trollin’.
Tom
05. Aug, 2010
A HUGE underdog? I have no clue why I come to a site like this, full of ignorant opinion and clueless conjecture. What makes Oregon such a HUGE underdog to LSU?
El Rey
05. Aug, 2010
Oregon Ducks of note that will be gone in 2011:
Remene Alston
Brandon Bair
Zac Clark
Nate Costa
DJ Davis
Max Forer
Jordan Holmes
Tyrell Irvin
Talmadge Jackson
Marvin Johnson
CE Keiser
Spencer Paysinger
Kenny Rowe
Bo Thran
Jeff Maehl
Casey Matthews
Forget all the starters on defense, having to replace Thran, Keiser and Holmes should be more than enough reason to take pause. I mean we all know how awesome the Ducks O looked while breaking in an entire new O line against Boise last year…
Plus, you take away the 07 beat down of Michigan, when has Oregon every impressed on the road (or neutral fields) during the non-conference?
PS-stop being such a clueless homer, Tom.
Tom
05. Aug, 2010
I am far from a homer. I have always doubted the ducks.
I just must have forgotten about all those LSU national titles and bowl wins over the past 2 seasons.
Better players
05. Aug, 2010
We reside in Baton Rouge.
Meerkat
05. Aug, 2010
But if they pull off the upset … they are immediate national championship contenders.
Tom
06. Aug, 2010
Just like all the better players at USC that UO keeps losing to?
bbryan
06. Aug, 2010
I like the idea of making LSU leave Lousiana before November, should nueteralize things.
I’m split on this, as a fan of football and manlyness I love the big time non-conference games. As a ducks homer I’d rather them play a bunch of PSU’s and take their chances in the pac-10. Come November voters just look at your record, they don’t remember if you played big time non-conference games.
Lastly, losing Casey Matthews can only help in ’11.
Meerkat
06. Aug, 2010
Oregon St vs TCU at Cowboys Stadium this opening weekend (espn?) will certainly help the Beavers snag the eyes of many recruits in Texas and on the East coast. Recruits like future Rogers bros (who are from Texas).
Remember, if the Ducks don’t lose that Stanford game last year, they would have been in the running for a shot at Alabama. Even with the loss to Boise, in Boise.
USC traveled and played big games opening week during Pete’s reign. If the Ducks wanna be the bully of the PAC-12, they gotta fill the shoes.
bbryan
06. Aug, 2010
But it didn’t do USC any good. The SEC teams were alway higher in the BSC after playing directional schools at home 4 times a year. It’s cool to play those big games, but it doesn’t help any.
Meerkat
06. Aug, 2010
It helps in recruiting if your squad comes into SEC/BIG12 territory and drubs the local team.
Oregon vs LSU is a trifecta of exposure and a game Chip couldn’t turn down if he wants oregon to rise to the next level
1) national tv game
2) SEC conf exposure
3) game played in BIG12 territory
3D
06. Aug, 2010
The SEC teams get away w/ playing cupcakes (oh yes I did) b/c the pedestal the conference is on. The winner of the SEC will almost always be in the title game if they have 1 or 0 losses. Every other conference plays by different rules and has to fight for the other title game spot. You can either put a good team on the schedule and have more control over your destiny or schedule crap teams, load up on wins, and hope in the end you beat out UT, OU, tOSU, etc… for the final spot. I prefer playing the extra tough game and possibly getting gameday or at least a really hyped weekend.
stake
06. Aug, 2010
Whats with the anti-Mathews banter? Although a snake might have better hands, don’t forget we are used to guys like Bacon and Haberly.
Derp Derpington
06. Aug, 2010
SEC conference competition =/= Pac10 conference competition.
If you are in the SEC, you are going to be playing several highly regarded teams regardless of what you schedule OOC. This is not so in the pac10 (at least as of late). Pac10 has two teams in the top 25, none in top 10. SEC has 6 teams in the top 25, and two in the top 5.
You want to be the best, you have to beat the best.
I would also like to reiterate that this is a great exposure game, and that UO will be a totally different look for LSU than they are used to in the SEC.
Derp
El Rey
06. Aug, 2010
I certainly agree that is a great deal for exposure, no argument there.
As far as being a ‘totally different look for LSU’, are you sure? The Gators and MSU run pretty similar schemes, and even Ole Miss runs some spread elements/wild Reb stuff.
Besides, Oregon was supposed to be a totally different look for the slow-footed Buckeyes in Pasadena…
Tom
06. Aug, 2010
Haberly was garbage, god I can’t believe he got PT. Used to play basketball with him at the rec, total EGO-maniac.
Derp Derpington
06. Aug, 2010
Florida and MSU do not run an offense like Oregon’s. Having a quarterback that takes some carries does not make you a CK Spread type offense. Thats like saying Nebraska in the 90s has an offense like Oregon’s. The truth is, nobody really runs an offense like Oregon. The closest look LSU is going to get at an Oregonesque offense is when they play WVU, and WVU is lacking the firepower on offense to run it like they did when they had Pat White and Steve Slaton
OSU wasn’t able to stop Oregon’s run attack, and if we had had a competent passing QB it would have been a different story. The defenses lack of ability to stop on 3rd down was probably the biggest failure. One LGB fumble away from that game coming down to the wire. LSU also won’t have TP playing the game of his career, Oregon won’t have Masoli playing the worst game of his.
And again, Oregon needs match-ups like these to keep them credible. If Oregon would have had stronger SoS in 2001 they would have made it to the championship game. A victory over a top 15 SEC team certainly would have went a long ways in voters minds as well. Playing the utah states of the world only gets you so far.
So yeah, you can schedule creampuffs all you want and hope for the best, but it can bite you hard. See the first year of the BCS (1998) KSU finishes #3 in the BCS and does not even get selected for a BCS bowl.
I, for one, would only like to see Oregon make a title game if I thought they were among the best in the nation and had a good shot at winning it. I don’t want to backdoor in only to be humiliated, crushing the programs credibility.
Derp
El Rey
06. Aug, 2010
I agree UOs offense in unique, but Urban’s in similar (and Urb’s old o coordinator now runs MSU) and I don’t think it would be the biggest shock to LSU.
I’m not going to get into the Rose Bowl, as there were numerous reasons the Ducks spit the bit in that one.
In 01, Oregon had a decent non-conference slate, it’s just Wisconsin and Utah ended up not being all that good.
I could be wrong, but didn’t K-State blow a like 16 point lead in the last 8 minutes of the BigXII championship game in 98? probably didn’t leave a great image in the eyes of the bowl committees.
Kevin Parnella
07. Sep, 2010
The author is correct. The Pac 10 doesn’t want anything to do with the SEC. We saw that same level of fear out of the Texas Longhorns when the Big 12 was rumored to fold, and author is just as afraid.
Gary Crowton
07. Sep, 2010
I have no imagination.
I fit in down here in Baton Rouge.
Dennis
31. Jan, 2011
So I guess now this game is even bigger than when you guys debated in aug. 2010. A powerhouse LSU will take on an extrmely fast Oregon team fresh off a national championship loss with a lot of players returning. I think that the size will make a difference and you can’t argue with the SEC, they are dominant. I like the out of conference nuetral site game, it’s great publicity and is what fans want to see. And by the way WCP541 LSU did beat Florida and Bama last season and are definately a top 5 team.
Stephen
12. May, 2011
You’re an idiot if you think you can write LSU off as a team that “ain’t shit.” you’re even more of an idiot if you think sec schedules cream puffs and Oregon plays a tough schedule. If I remember correctly, last time Oregon came out to someone in hostile territory, you got so humiliated your starting runningback got so pissed he hit somebody and got suspended for 8 games? SEC always has at least 5-6 teams in the top 10, each team usually plays 3 or 4, maybe even all of them. What teams break the top 20 in the PAC 10, and actually remain there? Oregon? USC? That’s about it. Come sept 4th, you’re about to et schooled on SEC football, even if oregon wins, it will be extremely difficult to take on an sec squad, especially a dominant one like LSU.
Kinger
12. May, 2011
Stephen, is it safe to assume you are an SEC fan? Well if so, answer me this: who gave Tennessee their most lopsided loss in the history of Neyland Stadium, and when did this occur?
WCP541
12. May, 2011
LSU still ain’t shit. Hey Kinger, I know the answer to your second question.
J.T.
13. May, 2011
All LSU is is a bunch of trick plays. Hell, if they have that Jefferson kid at qb, that pretty much guarantees their offense is gonna be a bag of suck. Nothing better than punching those Stupid Egotistical Cocksuckers (what SEC REALLY stands for) right in their junk in their shed. Ducks Forever, Inbreds Never!!!!
NE Lousiana St.
13. May, 2011
Stephen’s right, SEC teams only schedule the toughest non-conference opponents, like us and our other anonymous, tiny, backwards-assed state school brethren that they essentially have a bye week with in the middle of their conference schedule.
That Louisiana Lafayette is a helluva program. Same with Georgia St. (Sorry Gummy) La. Monroe? Dynasty. Yip, we play tough ball down here. SEC is far and away the best conference in the history of college football. Just ask them.
Stephen
13. May, 2011
Yeah, cause Tennessee was such an elite squad this year. Please, the only reason lsu struggled was because we had some terrible play calling. LSUs got the talent, the only issue is the play calling, if kragthorpe pulls through, we’ll have a third crystal ball to add to the case. You don’t have to go tough out of conference in the SEC, the tough teams are on the schedule from the get-go. Had Oregon put bama, Arkie, lsu, or uf would’ve been different. Look at the bcs game for example, Auburns defense shut you down in that game, and their defense wasn’t spectacular. Put lsu or bama or any other worthy SEC team (NOT Tennessee) in autzen stadium, Id beat money that the sec team would come out on top. Bama’s squad that beat texas would slaughter oregon in any place, autzen, Bryant-Denny, anywhere, same With lsu’s championship squad. PAC-10 will NEVER compare to the SEC. Why have we won most of the bcs games AND are STILL undefeated in the chpionship game. Simple: the best SEC team beats the best team not in the SeC every time. And
I Garuntee if one of your boys threw a punch in death valley, he wouldn’t come out of there without recieveing a good assehoopin first.
Stephen
13. May, 2011
If you wanna proove something to the SEC, you’d go to Bryant-Denny, Jordan Hare, or, if you’ve got big balls, death valley, La. Not Neyland when you know tennessee is struggling like they are., that’s looking for an easy win.
You thought autzen was loud and rowdy against USC on Halloween? Should’ve seen when LSU beat Florida in 07 when they took their rightful place at number 1 after USC got beat by stanford. Or this year when we sent saban back to Tuscaloosa with a loss. Death valley is one of the toughest places to play ball, if not the toughest already. And when auburn beat my lsu in Jordan hare wAs the closest
Stephen
13. May, 2011
-Anyone has gotten to being as loud as tiger stadium. Thats for damn sure.
Fender
13. May, 2011
Wait, is this SEC Guy from 95.5?
first “Stephen,” if that IS your REAL name, Oregon scheduled Tennessee 5 years in advance. I still remember when they did, thinking they were fucking retarded, because they still had not sorted their program out, whereas Tennessee was still successful. There’s no way of predicting which programs might crumble when you sign contracts years in advance. Fact.
Also, you didn’t need to spell like a third-grader to convince me you’re from the Deep South. I would have taken your word.
SEC is a self-fulfilling prophecy. For years, Pac 10 (USC specifically) would get knocked as not being quality because they couldn’t get through their conference unscathed. Pundits claimed this was an indication of the weakness of the conference. Juxtaposed against this mongrel-idiocy was the chest-puffing bullshit theory that the exact same dynamic was an indication of the SEC’s STRENGTH as a conference. Are the programs in the SEC some of the best year in/year out? Sure. No one could argue otherwise with a straight face. Are you jackasses the be-all end-all? To yourselves and CBS, yes. The rest of the country wants your head on a fucking pike. Deal with it. We all have different outlooks.
Auburn won a tough game against Oregon. Note that Oregon’s D also kept Auburn and Scam Newton at bay. Much tougher game than other SEC teams who’ve beaten the shit out of Ohio St. (except for this year), Notre Dame (I’m a Domer fan, but c’mon, big whoop), and a similar list of punching Judies. Oh yeah, wow, Bama thumped a Texas squad without Colt McCoy. That’d be like the Jazz getting stoked that they beat the Bulls after Jordan tore his hammy in game 1.
SEC will continue to violate NCAA rules like they were 16 year old Seattle groupies. That’s fine. We all get it. SEC has little else going for it. Congrats.
Keep fighting the good fight, precious.
Stephen
13. May, 2011
Bama would’ve beaten Texas with or without McCoy, so You can stop that arguement now. Actually, in reality a proper comparison would be like if new England would beat Indianapolis without peyton manning, you could tell new England would most likely win but having Peyton manning would greatly increase their chances.
Great job attacking my spelling, especially because of where i live, sorry I’m on an iPhone and I have big thumbs, I’m actually attending LSU right now and currently hold a 3.0 GPA, going into the national guard after college also, lol.
Keep being jealous of the sec guys, we’ll keep winning trophies while playing teams like Bama, ark, auburn, LSU, Florida, etc while you guys play like Washington state, Oregon state, cal, ucla, Arizona state, washington, etc etc.
Unlike you guys, I’ll let the teams do the arguing for me. Especially come sept 4th. Oregon will have their hands full,
I wont say we’ll win, but it will be a good tough game for both teams.
Stephen
13. May, 2011
So you got me there on the Tennessee thing, but don’t use that as an example of the PAC-10 against the SEC. I was expecting Oregon to stomp Tenn, and was surprised to see Tenn fare as well as they did when they were actually beating them, but then Chip Kelly, in his ever-so-”classy” fashion, ran up the score, again, yawn.
I like Oregon, minus Chip, They are a great football team with a load of talent. SO I def won’t be writing these guys off, unlike some of the people on this blog who think LSU isn’t a force to be reckoned with, which makes me wonder if they even pay any attention to College Football. The reason I don’t like Chip is because he beats a dead horse too often. Going for two when you’re clearly beating someone is a bit uncalled for. I would love to put Oregon in the SEC with us, due to geographical restraints, of course, that would never happen. It would give them a chance to play some real teams.
Kinger
13. May, 2011
Arkansas? Really? The 2010 Gators?
Oregon would have put up 70 on Petrino’s pathetic defense (he doesn’t even try to play D). The Gators were an abortion last year, lets be real. What’s next, the Gamecocks gave Auburn a better game in the SECCG than Oregon did in the BCS Title game? Spurrier running a powerhouse?
Stephen Didn't Watch The Game
13. May, 2011
Which second half play cemented the ‘running up the score?’ The INT return for 6, the punt return for 6 or the possession lead by scrubs?
I hate when head coaches make opposing QBs throw picks and make the other team have special team lapses. It’s NOT the bees knees!
SEC Speed
13. May, 2011
SEC Guy
13. May, 2011
UWrosesDawg
14. May, 2011
The ucks are gonna get smadhed by lswho. But it has noting vto do with how good the ligers are,people have figured out chimp bellys gimmicks,you guys even almost lost to us last year and would have if locker played. The Huskies have more national titles then lsuwho, WOOF!
Fender
14. May, 2011
Dear Stephen,
I’m very sorry you had to just read that. Please be advised that the opinions of whoever penned that asinine submission are his and his alone, and in no way represent those of anyone who normally checks this website….or for that matter anyone outside the cluster fuck that is Seattle.
Stake
14. May, 2011
sec guy was right about the ball coach-he’s shifty.
Stephen
14. May, 2011
Oh, okay I was thinkin of another game, idk why but I was under the impressions Oregon blanked Tennessee 60 to nothing.
Yes Arkie, no not the 2010 gators, well maybe. I’m just listing the current consistent ranked teams, as compared to the PAC-10.
Stephen
14. May, 2011
Not 60 to nothing, shit, I thought Oregon had like 60 points to tennesee’s 13.
Was about to say, you thought my spelling was bad, idk wtf the Washington dude even said. Tell ya what, next time Washington can actually stay consistently good, you can talk shiy, but when you’re the fan of a team that actually went 0-12, please stfu and don’t speak again.
Kinger
14. May, 2011
Welcome back, Rosie!
We all still think you’re an idiot, QUACK
UWrosesDawg
15. May, 2011
stfu stephan lsuwhos history is nowhere near the glory of washington.until saba came and do less with more gravy trained to the worst title team ever noone new lsu existed,y’all had gerry rinardo for years lmfao. Smh at stephon,WOOF
Stephen
15. May, 2011
Must be a Washington Phd graduate right there. Damn.
Learn to spell first, then get on the Internet.
SEC Football - Roscoe
03. Jun, 2011
I’ll be damned. Duck Season opens early this year.
0-2 against the SEC is a good start. Just ask the Ohio State. It’s an above average record.
box
11. Jun, 2011
Murderers row? You need a tough OOC schedule b/c the SEC, Big 12, Big 10 and ACC are all better conferences than the pac 10. People on the West Coast are the only ones who think the Pac 10 is worth a shit.
Dan Murphy
21. Jun, 2011
For the poster who said “All LSU is is a bunch of trick plays. Hell, if they have that Jefferson kid at qb, that pretty much guarantees their offense is gonna be a bag of suck.”, you must have only seen game highlights and the analysts who constantly question Jefferson’s ability (Herbstriet). But Jefferson took the Tigers to an 11-2 season with losses to Auburn and Arkansas. And his play improved during the last part of the season. We have a new Off.Coord. Steve Kragthorpe. We are returning 4 of 5 starters in the OL and 8 of 11 on defense. I’m optimistic.
mike vi
10. Aug, 2011
uwrosses srry u got ur facts wrong the huskies only have 2 (1960; 1998) lsu 3 (1958; 2003; 2007) n dont compare washington to lsu your making your favorite team look bad
its like saying detroit is better than green bay
Tyler
22. Aug, 2011
First off, what a terrible blog/article. Check your grammar. Second, Washington will never beat Oregon and I hate the fucking Ducks having gone to college at Oregon State. LSU will smash Oregon especially since its on the road. Let us not forget, Oregon never wins big games. They always choke when all they need is just one more win. LSU will be bigger and stronger. See ya Oregon. FInally your schedule will show the country how weak your team really is.